BLUE BEETLE Animated Series In The Works At DC Studios; Will Serve As A Follow-Up To 2023 Movie (2024)

Triple throw up.

Budget: $104M
Box Office: $130M
$178M loss

I'm glad they're not letting Jamie go but the movie certainly should be added to the deceased DCEU as a part of that and be laid to rest.

@Blergh - That is NOT how math works, can never loose more money than the total you spend.

104 budget makes for a 250 break even, so it did loose money but if it didn't sell a single ticket you still couldn't have lost more than that 104 (plus maybe another 50 for advertising etc).

Loss is total spend minus how much you get back from ticket sales thus lets say TOTAL cost with advertising etc is 150, get half the BO, thus loss is around $60M...

...however then effectively having a TV movie which cost you only $60M is likely considered worth it as I am under the impression it was initialy only intended to be made for streaming only and I'd say the film deserved to make way more than it did.

@Apophis71 - Anything less than the break even point is a loss. If it's 250 break even and 130 BO then they lost 120.

250 - 130 = 120.

@ObserverIO - No, that STILL isn't how it works

If you spend 150 and only get 90 back from ticket sales (half the box office) you have lost 60... the reason break even is 250 is cos half that goes to the theatre, everyone forgets to divide by two when doing these calcs... so yes, they fell short of break even by 120, but that means a 60 loss cos 120/2

@Apophis71 - The budget of the film isn't the only money that the studio spends, there's marketing costs, distribution etc. The theatres do take a cut, but everything is factored into the break even point. That's what the break even point is, it's how much the movie needs to make before it starts making a profit.

So anything less than that is a loss, surely.

@ObserverIO - Yes, I know all of that but your forgetting to divide by two, the 250 is due to the studio only getting half the box office AND factoring the additional costs...

Budget around 100 will means around 50 marketing etc, that is how much out of pocket, 150ish

They get about half the ticket sales thus the income the rest going to theatres.

If costs minus income is 150 minus 90 it makes a 60 loss roughly even if 120 short of break even (which does include an error I realised which I will get to)

NOW, if you then want to start factoring taxes and all of that sort of thing it changes the numbers again if we realy wanted to get into the weeds and a loss results in the ability to have tax right offs but we are talking rough math not into the weeds.

Tho I did notice after your 2nd respone I made a mistake too, half asleep and all that and got two of the numbers mixed up due to the silly math the OP posted, lol, I was looking at the BO being the $178 thus making income around 90 when it was BO of 130 thus income of around 65 and thus loss of 150-65=85

The point remains almost everyone forgets to divide by two so yes 250-130 gives you how far short of break even point they were but need a divide by two in the math in order to get to how much they are out of pocket, ie losses, not just look at a straight forward rough estimate of break even point minus ticket sales.

However my main point, resulting in the half asleep error, is cos you can NEVER loose more money than you spend thus if only spending 100 plus advertising etc and an therefore an out of pocket of 150 you can't loose more than that and the OP had the losses at 178.

@Apophis71 - That's probably why people are always calling it a 'rule of thumb' equation, because it's actually more complicated that just a single number they have to reach.

So basically there's a much lower break even point (how much they spent) and then the BO that you take off of that number is the BO ÷ 2.
It's not as simple as Break even point-BO=
It's Lower break even point/money spent-(BO÷2)=

I got it, I think. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

@ObserverIO - Yeh, the numbers are always based on a lot of guestimates too and leave out a lot such as all the tax breaks, other grants and financial incentives for filming in specific locations, product placement and adverts for sponsors, merch, licensing and however much you value the thing when it goes on streaming.

Marketing isn't always half the budget, sometimes more, sometimes less but the profit and loss you always need to have an accurate figure of total costs first and a full picture of all their income and use those two numbers to work it out which is clear as mud with the creative accounting Hollywood pulls off, lol.

I still need to see the movie but cool…

Given Gunn’s recent comments about characters crossing over from live action to animation or vice versa , I’m expecting Xolo and pretty much the rest of the cast to be back for this.

We might even get Ted Kord voiced by the same person that would play him in live action whether they decide to (somebody like a Jason Sudeikis or Bateman might do well in that role).

I hope they do continue the search for Ted Kord story since I do know that the film sets him as having been an established hero previously which could work in the DCU rather then him just inexplicably being back.

@TheVisionary25 - Finaly got around to watching it last week, kept putting it off thinking it was going to be, erm, not for me...

...my wife and I both loved it, sure it aint perfect but it is worth checking out I'd say.

@Apophis71 - nice !!

I have heard good things about so that’s cool.

Let's keep doing the thing. It's bound to pay off someday...

Maybe some of the girls who love Marvel will dig Blue Beetle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Nomis929 -

@Nomis929 -

That's how I imagine my Grandmother bugging out of Cuba before Castro took over.

@Izaizaiza - Yup, tend to agree, worth watching but maybe not worth going to the big screen kind of film...

...but i would rewatch it over BvS or JL anyday of the week

@Apophis71 -

You got that right Napoleon.